Senator Joyal: Mr. Minister, this is in relation with the interpretation of proposed subsection 121.1(5), which is the paragraph dealing with subsequent offences. It seems, from those who will have to look into the act for its implementation, that they would consider a previous or former offence under the Excise Tax Act or the Criminal Code related to tobacco smuggling or trafficking as a previous offence that would trigger the minimum penalty.
Le sénateur Joyal : Monsieur le ministre, en ce qui concerne l'interprétation du projet de paragraphe, à savoir le paragraphe 121.1(5) qui traite des infractions ultérieures, il semble, du point de vue des personnes qui vont devoir étudier la loi en vue de son application, qu'elles devront considérer une infraction antérieure aux termes de la Loi sur l'accise ou du Code criminel touchant à la contrebande ou au trafic de tabac comme devant déclencher la peine minimale.