Mr. Tim O'Neill: If you use as your baseline for each of the next five fiscal years constant nominal spending levels and then look at what the “surplus” is—which is the exercise Jeff Rubin and and his colleagues went through that was reported in the paper today, so there's no difference between their views and our views on what the size is, it's just how you use the baseline—what you end up with is about 150.
M. Tim O'Neill: Si, pour les cinq prochains exercices, on se sert, comme référence, de niveaux de dépenses constants, puis qu'on regarde l'excédent, on se retrouve avec un chiffre de 150.