Hon. Sharon Carstairs: Honourable senators, as I listened to Senator Hays talk about himself and Jim Maxim, I was reminded that the other three were Jim Coutts, Senator Taylor and John Carstairs.
L'honorable Sharon Carstairs: Honorables sénateurs, en écoutant le sénateur Hays parler de lui-même et de Jim Maxim, je me suis souvenue que les trois autres étaient Jim Coutts, le sénateur Taylor et John Carstairs.