This example clearly shows how cumbersome the department is. It also shows how members who, like my colleague for Témiscamingue, like my colleague for Berthier-Montcalm, like myself and like all my colleagues, including Liberal members and Reform members, want to do their job-
Cet exemple souligne bien, il me semble, la lourdeur du ministère, et aussi comment les députés qui, comme mon collègue de Témiscamingue, comme mon collègue de Berthier-Montcalm,