I think one of the things you should appreciate, by the way, is that the family just two weeks ago called evidence that in part was expert American evidence from a very renowned penologist, Dr. Kelsey Kauffman, who's written a book called Prison Officers and Their World, which I commend to you if you haven't read it.
L'une des choses qu'il faut bien voir, et je le dis en passant, c'est que la famille, il y a deux semaines, a fait témoigner un expert américain, une pénologiste très connue, Kelsey Kauffman, qui a rédigé un ouvrage intitulé Prison Officers and Their World, et je vous le recommande si vous ne l'avez pas lu.